Crossword SNITCH

A quantitative guide to the degree of difficulty of the Times Cryptic Crossword

Times Cryptic Crossword 28717

Date 25 September 2023
Number 28717
Day of week Monday
NITCH 60
Count of ref solvers 58
Ref solvers excluded with errors 2
Link to crossword View Crossword*
Times for the Times Link 28717

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Detailed solving results

Reference, Tracked and Blog solvers with error-free solutions to this puzzle are shown below.

We also show the solver's Personal NITCH, which is their result on this puzzle compared to their average time, and the Wavelength Index of Times Cryptic Hardness, the WITCH, which is the Personal NITCH compared to the SNITCH.

Name TfTT Name Average time This time Personal NITCH WITCH
milesjwoodford 04:45 05:13 109 181
Jason 06:12 03:41 59 98
verlaine Verlaine 06:32 04:19 66 110
Diskus 06:35 04:35 69 115
hilarym 06:45 07:03 104 173
mistigris 07:04 03:44 52 86
aphis99 aphis99 07:24 03:54 52 86
Paul Gilbert 07:24 04:50 65 108
lili 07:40 05:02 65 108
Magoo 07:51 04:14 53 88
boulemiche 08:53 06:52 77 128
asaldanha 08:53 07:43 86 143
richard 09:07 06:58 76 126
chindit 09:30 05:32 58 96
lickert 10:19 06:17 60 100
Kinghedger 10:23 06:28 62 103
glheard glh 10:26 05:41 54 90
philjordan1147 BUSMAN 10:30 06:53 65 108
AlanS 10:37 07:13 67 111
miked1961 11:04 08:38 78 130
markdobell 11:04 05:58 53 88
Heyesey 11:04 06:32 59 98
xyster 11:07 07:29 67 111
Deane Short Deane Short 11:13 06:37 58 96
keriothe_ keriothe 11:16 04:30 39 65
chriswords 11:20 09:22 82 136
Topical Tim Topical Tim 11:35 06:06 52 86
ChuckB 11:42 08:31 72 120
Sheapey Sheapey 11:47 09:04 76 126
fshephe 11:58 08:14 68 113
David Crooks dcrooks 11:59 09:21 78 130
neilr neilr 12:15 09:15 75 125
tilbee 12:30 10:05 80 133
patrickcates 12:31 08:23 66 110
Tom Stubbs Tom Stubbs 12:31 07:11 57 95
canismiser 12:40 08:05 63 105
JimboFS 12:50 07:48 60 100
d.middleton 12:53 07:55 61 101
March (JeffCollins) mch1 12:54 07:25 57 95
Ben Staveley 13:09 08:37 65 108
John Walsh 13:15 12:02 90 150
edwards.robert1 13:16 16:04 121 201
jonathan.leather 13:22 13:13 98 163
Stavros Stavrolex 13:33 05:48 42 70
LouWeed LouWeed 13:41 08:43 63 105
HoneyBadger 13:52 10:04 72 120
MikeOsborne mikeosborne 14:01 08:10 58 96
Ed freshpot Ed Freshpot 14:02 06:55 49 81
Finzi 14:19 09:39 67 111
Penfold_61 Penfold 14:29 08:11 56 93
AndyR 14:32 09:45 67 111
JezWoolfrey 14:34 11:10 76 126
alexh 14:39 09:43 66 110
Tibthorpe 14:49 11:30 77 128
phthisis 14:53 10:17 69 115
pitcaithlie Pitcaithlie 14:56 10:29 70 116
Semillon 14:58 08:20 55 91
Achernar 15:00 13:31 90 150
Eddddddd 15:23 09:19 60 100
Peponi13 15:26 08:45 56 93
Squallaby 15:33 08:16 53 88
SimonAnthony 15:52 06:01 37 61
johninterred Johninterred 15:54 08:58 56 93
robinh 16:02 09:55 61 101
samgdavies 16:14 06:26 39 65
Pootle Pootle 16:18 11:27 70 116
andrewlake 16:31 11:25 69 115
Looch 16:33 08:11 49 81
BlackburnRover 16:35 18:11 109 181
ajcauk1 16:51 12:20 73 121
Crucifer Crucifer 16:53 09:20 55 91
ilan 16:57 10:47 63 105
Craven 17:06 11:26 66 110
LJCN 17:14 10:36 61 101
DunPangolin 17:49 12:26 69 115
Zander 18:02 13:10 73 121
Foozler 18:08 12:00 66 110
pterodactyl 18:12 14:05 77 128
kath 18:13 14:13 78 130
GMcD 18:13 09:19 51 85
cmcnsmith 18:29 11:57 64 106
John Arnold 18:42 12:35 67 111
cognominative 18:43 14:59 80 133
Andrew Whiffin 18:49 12:03 64 106
cath23 19:04 07:16 38 63
Jeremy S 19:49 13:59 70 116
daulbs 20:07 12:10 60 100
Hamish.S 20:12 08:57 44 73
DanSolo 20:18 10:53 53 88
Umpire 20:27 06:59 34 56
endafk 20:32 15:45 76 126
Zabadak3 Zabadak 20:47 12:24 59 98
cyrillic 20:50 13:04 62 103
pc8 20:57 16:29 78 130
george.garlick 20:57 10:07 48 80
James P Special_bitter 21:02 09:18 44 73
Paul Hammond Paul Hammond 21:12 12:51 60 100
Curarist Curarist 21:24 12:04 56 93
Leegoods 21:29 10:47 50 83
squark 21:30 11:10 51 85
hopkinb hopkinb 22:11 09:24 42 70
Nangle 22:19 15:29 69 115
gsriordan52 22:31 16:05 71 118
Waterloo 23:10 13:19 57 95
barracuda barracuda 23:38 14:11 60 100
1234 23:42 12:19 51 85
david_ch 23:48 12:45 53 88
Tudds 23:53 11:46 49 81
goblin 23:54 14:31 60 100
Jeremy Weissmann plusjeremy 24:15 18:44 77 128
Galspray (Rabbitoh) galspray 24:27 13:26 54 90
Brenk Brenk1 24:33 13:56 56 93
valerian1967 24:34 11:12 45 75
daniel.faith 24:51 19:37 78 130
Fidelio 25:08 11:23 45 75
rjcassidy rjcassidy 25:21 15:46 62 103
DianeRS 25:22 11:22 44 73
Riche Riche 25:31 12:51 50 83
Mkgnao Mkgnao 25:32 14:34 57 95
medodd 25:37 19:20 75 125
ulaca ulaca 25:40 14:13 55 91
Bert Dove 26:22 15:42 59 98
Crippens1 26:24 14:00 53 88
JE59 26:31 15:10 57 95
eniamretrauq eniamretrauq 26:58 15:58 59 98
chris661554 27:03 15:40 57 95
Deezzaa Deezzaa 27:24 14:34 53 88
Dr_Bob 27:48 28:42 103 171
bobbb 28:08 14:36 51 85
Yatton50 28:13 30:16 107 178
McBeak McBeak 28:23 16:36 58 96
JoeyC 28:39 15:17 53 88
Lloyd 28:44 19:59 69 115
nekabue 28:47 11:06 38 63
Mike Harper Mike Harper 29:15 13:36 46 76
NAPASAI napasai 29:36 18:40 63 105
gbestanley 29:41 23:01 77 128
BertieVII 31:19 17:57 57 95
koro kororareka 32:15 16:29 51 85
Vagans 32:25 21:38 66 110
dosbarth 32:42 25:00 76 126
cheryllayne cheryllayne 32:45 19:05 58 96
jeremy.kenyon 35:05 15:32 44 73
boltonwanderer 35:28 21:00 59 98
starstruck starstruck_au 35:43 20:55 58 96
jackk.larg 36:03 17:29 48 80
Cryptique 36:27 29:58 82 136
HanS 37:10 20:28 55 91
Rookie 38:01 30:23 79 131
kapietro kapietro 38:16 22:27 58 96
maryht 38:27 29:43 77 128
tyrotim tyrotim 38:36 22:08 57 95
Shushannah 39:08 27:27 70 116
alistair.boere 42:23 14:11 33 55
MartinP MartinP1 42:49 25:10 58 96
baronrob 43:46 21:59 50 83
empty 43:50 26:20 60 100
Winchelt618 44:00 33:09 75 125
Steve Wood 48:00 28:45 59 98
kjbr 53:56 29:36 54 90
profsjpayne 55:09 46:26 84 140

A guide to the solver status

Legend
 Reference solver used for SNITCH
 Other Reference solver
 Tracked solver
 Blog solver

Blog Solvers

Blog Solvers are those who have allowed their times to be taken from the Times for the Times blog.

Notes for Blog Solvers:

  • the most reliable format for reporting times is with format "mm:ss" or as "x minutes" in the title or at the start of the entry
  • only the first main comment for each blogger is used; responses to other comments or a second comment is ignored
  • to report errors, include "n errors" just after the time
  • If you just have a time it is assumed you have no errors unless you mention DNF or pink squares or giving up, etc, in the text
  • Examples of good time notifications are "38:30, 0 errors" and "39 minutes, 0 errors" in the comment title or as the first part of your comment

Notes

The definition of Reference and Tracked solvers is described on the Neutrinos page.

The results for Reference solvers are normally used to calcuate the SNITCH. When this happens they are shown in the list with a solid blue line to the left. In the previous SNITCH results listing for each crossword, these were the only entries shown.

The most common causes for Reference solver results not to be used are: (a) that they did not meet the criteria this month to be used as a reference (e.g. they may not have completed enough puzzles on each day of the week) or (b) they have been pushed out of the top 100 on the leader board. In these cases, the results are now shown, but their data is not used for the SNITCH calculation.

Where there is data for Tracked solvers, I show them also in this table. The solving data is not always available, as the Crossword Club site only shows the top 100 solvers to everyone. Logged-in users get their own leaderboard position and those around them, but this is not available to everyone. So the SNITCH site only gets data for those who have made the top 100 in the leaderboard at some point during the day.

As a result there are a few geographically advantaged solvers; those of us who solve early in the day (e.g. we in the Antipodes, those in Asia and those staying up late in North America) are more likely to hit the leaderboard even with slower times. Solvers who are just as capable but solve later in the UK day might not make the top 100 and I have no way to capture their results.

You may wonder why there are Tracked solvers (in red) with low average solving times, mixed in with the Reference solvers (in blue). These are usually those that, while they don't seem to be Neutrinos, are not well aligned to the SNITCH. So I don't use them as Reference solvers in the SNITCH calculation, but still show their overall results.

You might also notice that there's some inconsistency at the tail end of the Reference solver list. My cutoff point is an average solving time of 45 minutes. But if someone around this mark is chosen as a Reference solver, their next month's results might end up being over 45 minutes and they will still be used. Alternatively, a Tracked solver might creep in under 45 minutes on the next calculation, but didn't make the cut for the prior Reference list. It's on the to-do list to see if I can make this a bit more predictable.

Stored SNITCH Values

Here are the SNITCH values (stored on the day) from the crossword.

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